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Rosalind Martin

Can anyone help? I want to "ring" more quarters on Abel, and I am now confident to add compositions from complib because in case of confusion I can check the Blue Line.

However, I am completely stumped on this one, probably because my understanding of calling Stedman is way short of what it needs to be. Can anyone help by:
- recommending a website or book that explains calling Stedman (and all the different notations) for beginners
- putting me out of my misery and debugging this particular composition, taken from
https://bb.ringingworld.co.uk/comp.php?id=2273663

1281 Spliced Cinques and Maximus (2m)
Composed by R H Burton
672 Bristol Surprise Maximus; 609 Stedman Cinques; 3 com

1234567890ET
1243567890ET BBBBBBB(s)
124356789E0T Stedman 1.3.5.6.9.10.12.s15.17.18.21.23.24.25.28.30.33.35 (36)
1243657890ET Stedman s3.s8.s10.12.13.s21.22
1234657890ET BBBBBBB(s)
24136587E90T Stedman 1.s13.15.16.18.s22
(321547698E0T) Stedman 4.8.9.10.11.12.16.17.20

Here is my Abelsim version:
# the first section is fine, the required coursing orders appear...
Bri pppppps

# Stedman 1.3.5.6.9.10.12.s15.17.18
# .21.23.24.25.28.30.33.35 (36)
Ste b p b p b b p p b b p b p p s p b b
p p b p b b b p p b p b p p b p b p

# Stedman s3.s8.s10.12.13.s21.22
p p s p p p p s p s p b b p p p p p
p p s b

# BBBBBBB (s)
Bri pppppps
###########################################################################
# Stedman 1.s13.15.16.18.s22
# The bug is somewhere in this section. 24136587E90T not achieved.
#
Ste b p p p p p p p p p p p s p b b p b
p p p s

# Stedman 4.8.9.10.11.12.16.17.20

p p p b p p p b b b b b p p p b b p
p b

Grateful thanks!

Lucy Chandhial

I recently found this guide to calling Stedman which goes through the numbered calling positions: https://wiki.changeringing.co.uk/Conducting_Stedman
Maybe the bell it is called from has plain sixes before it reaches calling position one?

But I found this because I want to learn to call Stedman so I can’t be sure.

Graham John

The Stedman is full slow six start, although it doesn't tell you that. I have added it to Complib, so you can look at the rows there using the link below.

1281 Spliced Cinques and Maximus by Richard Burton

Rosalind Martin

↪Graham John

thank you! I am so grateful.

Rosalind Martin

I have added "stedman with slow starts" into Abel (see below) and everything is fine until the calls start, when Abel seems to miscount the plain leads and consistently does each bob or single either one or 2 leads too soon. I have fudged the composition by adding in lots of plain calls until it works as it should, but can anyone spot what I am doing wrong? The "bug" occurs whether or not Bristol is part of the composition, so I believe the problem definitely is something in my method definition.

Thanks

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Example:
For example, to get this fragment of the composition to work:
Stedman 4.8.9.10.11

You would expect Abel to want:

p p p b p p p b b b b

But this misses lots of "Plains" so I added in 2 before the 1st bob and 2 more before the second:

p pp pp b p pp pp b b b b

Rosalind Martin

Oh dear, I uploaded the wrong screenshot in my last comment and I can't see how to edit it. This is the correct one:

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