there's nothing wrong with ringing this however I'm surprised to be seeing accepted as a method. — J Martin Rushton
With Bellboard and a laptop, they could just provide a list of the rows that were rung....so if someone does ring it how should they describe it? — John Harrison
they could just provide a list of the rows that were rung — PeterScott
The aim of the Framework, or any naming system, is to enable more compact description without loss of accuracy. — John Harrison
The most compact description of the ringing would seem to be within the performance report -1234-1234-14.34.14-1234-12,34 (30 characters) — PeterScott
But which could you remember a month later? — Graham John
Yes, quite so. Conductors and their bands need to know what they are ringing before they start, and which calls there are likely to be. For example, in my experience, handbell performances are usually up-down-and-off without anyone saying "Go"....Think from a practical perspective: "Go Great Massingham"... — John Harrison
The Framework is indeed permissive and wide-ranging in defining what a ringing Performance can contain...Framework for Method Ringing ... provides the tools to describe what people choose to ring, rather than to determine that some things are legitimate, and by implication others are not. — ibid
but there some new methods which are impossible to use the Methods Library to describe. ...There is indeed nothing wrong with ringing it, so if someone does ring it how should they describe it? — ibid
They may have run out of methods that to which they were allowed to give a name :angry:, but ...Minimus ringers ran out of new methods to ring for which a single extent was possible. — Graham John
Yes, thay have the same count (website dated 1Dec2009) as from my 1990-dated computer program. I had the number written in my Ringers' Diary for many years and was reassured by another independent analysis referenced in a Ringing Theory discussion in 2004.... figure [10792 Minimus extents] from the article on the web by Polster & Ross — John Harrison
Yes, having blown the cobwebs off my 1990-printout, I had the same classification of them as AlexanderHolroyd used in 2004 hereA lot of those Hamiltonian paths are likely to be not asymmetric single lead methods... — John Harrison
Of those 162, there are 75 one-part extents with no symmetry, hence 7200 of the 10792 have four separate blue lines (example as above Crossbank Minimus): and of those, 288 do have a hunt bell.If rotations, reversals and mirror images are discounted, the number drops to 162 — Holroyd
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