They are presumably competitive and individualistic types — Barbara Le Gallez
You can tell them that even Knuth references change ringing :lol: — John de Overa
People do not fit into neat stereotypes anywa — John Harrison
The struggle appears to be that many ringers are happy to ring, enjoy ringing, will turn up for practices, outings, peals, etc but are not willing to put any time into organisation of ringing (ranging from bell maintenance to finances, calendars, publicity of events through to teaching future ringers). — Lucy Chandhial
I don't understand the desire to prop up the current associations, most of which aren't fit for purpose any longer. — John de Overa
I think that the problem is that many societies and their Districts and Branches are continuing to do what they have always done (at least in living memory). Those in charge dislike change, and this is what needs to be tackled. — Roger Booth
In business you need to follow the market, and in ringing that is what we need to do. — Roger Booth
In business you need to follow the market, and in ringing that is what we need to do. — Roger Booth
I can ring to surprise royal standard. If I were to learn to ring today that target would be an almost impossible suggestion (speaking generally of course) — Phillip George
Agreed it's not, particularly if you already know Cambridge Minor. The difficulty I have is with ropesight on 8, not so much the method. I can ring it fine on a tower sim + tied bell, but 2 half courses every 2 weeks with real ringers means it's slow going. I've learned Yorkshire as well, but when I asked to ring it I was told no.It's honestly not particularly difficult — Barbara Le Gallez
go for Cambridge Major. It's honestly not particularly difficult. if you can treble bob you can ring Cambridge. Go for it ! — Barbara Le Gallez
It is almost impossible to learn anything if all you are going to do is ring it for a few minutes each month. — Roger Booth
I think that the rush to Cambridge is a symptom of the current problems in the exercise. — Roger Booth
A more sustainable approach would be to do it the hard way and develop a band that ring together regularly each week and help them work up to it by learning some simpler methods first. — Roger Booth
I don't understand the desire to prop up the current associations, most of which aren't fit for purpose any longer. — John de Overa
We have joined the local Association and we've had advice and funding from the BRF, which was helpful. We now go as a group to occasional branch outings - it's noticeable that our tower usually makes up 1/3 - 1/2 of the attendees. — John de Overa
You don't need an association to run a BRF, there's a strong case that it would be better done nationally. — John de Overa
Centralising things does not automatically imply being less agile, less accountable, less responsive and more bureaucratic — John de Overa
There's an immediately obvious way that change would help - if existing associations can't find enough people to fill their posts then reducing the total number of posts by centralising and removing duplication would achieve that. — John de Overa
That just piles more work onto those who are engaged at a level that is remote from towers. — Alan C
Local government has reorganised many times since Victorian times — Alan C
Just under 60 ringers subscribe to our District Spond app. — Roger Booth
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