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Yes, there are handbell ringers that ring purely by place notation. You ring plain hunt with two rules: hunt below an even place and dodge above; hunt above an odd place, dodge below. It is equally possible to do this on towerbells, and it can be made easier by the conductor calling out the places.

There are problems using this approach for longer touches though. Apart from learning the place notation, which is itself tricky for all but the simplest notations, there is a real difficulty correcting an error. The conductor would need to say exactly which place you should be ringing in, and what the next and subsequent place notations are. Once said, the information has immediately changed because you will now be in a different place.

For this reason, ringing by the grid is to be preferred, because it is a visualization of the place notation with more context, including where the treble is and when the lead ends and half leads occur.

Cubs, Scouts, Explorers, Brownies, Guides and Rangers (a generic term needed) — Simon Linford

Squirrels?

There are also Doubles Variations:

Queen Elizabeth II Doubles
Queen Elizabeth Doubles
Charles Doubles

Central Council Variations and Calls Library

Here are some methods that people might like to ring over the coming days and weeks:

Queen Elizabeth II Bob Minor
Queen Elizabeth II Surprise Minor
Queen Elizabeth II Treble Place Minor
Elizabeth Surprise Major
Queen Elizabeth II Delight Major
Queen Elizabeth Treble Bob Major
Elizabeth II Alliance Major
Elizabeth II Alliance Royal
Elizabeth II Alliance Maximus
Charles Surprise Minor
King Charles Delight Minor

These methods* can be found in the following Complib collection:
Queen Elizabeth II and Charles III

*excluding Elizabeth II Alliance Major and Maximus which have yet to be rung.

There is more information about the Covid Bell at www.factum-arte.com/pag/1736/, which was cast by Pangolin in Stroud. If you watch the Pangolin website video carefully, @Simon Linford, you will see a cast Hippo very briefly!

The "London Bell Foundry" was formed by the group that wanted to save bellfounding in Whitechapel. http://www.savethewhitechapelbellfoundry.com/

but empowering and supporting people so they can get to the point where they can self-sustain in the long-term is I believe more important. — John de Overa

I am sure that the CC would welcome your ideas on how that might be achieved.

as for "initiatives" "being progressed", good to hear it - are there any details available anywhere? — John de Overa

Yes, the 2022 CCCBR report. There are two workgroups focussed on young ringers, the V&L workgroup on leadership and training and PR on public relations and communication. Specific initiatives include the introduction of a new annual ringing course in the NorthEast, a new Ringing Centre in Northampton, a new mobile belfry first seen at the Ringing Roadshow last Sunday, ringing material added to the National Curriculum, and much more. This is in addition to anything the affiliated societies and ART are doing.

You mentioned Simon Linford's 2030 plan, I don't think I've heard about that? In any case, as you say I don't think we have the luxury waiting until 2030 around here. — John de Overa

"2030" is to focus a November meeting of the CC Executive and Workgroup Leaders on "What we want ringing to look like in 2030" and produce a plan for how to get there. It doesn't mean do nothing until 2030 when some magical transformation will occur. It also doesn't mean that there aren't already initiatives being progressed.

@Stephen Beckingham and @oliver lee, could you both try again using the link I mentioned:

https://felstead.cccbr.org.uk/

or this shorter version works too:

https://felstead.org.uk/

We are looking into why some of the other links don't work any more.

Try this link if it is still not working for you: https://felstead.cccbr.org.uk/

Call Changes Category added.

Rather than a one off survey to get stats, a better answer would be to provide a database that is populated at any time using an online questionnaire, and which anyone could submit on behalf of a tower. Each submission would be dated, so change over time could be assessed by querying the database over different time intervals. It would still provide valuable data even while it is being gathered, and associations could be encouraged to populate data for towers for which there was no data, or hadn't had an updated entry recently.

As a bonus, historic data from previous surveys at either local or national level could be input.

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If it helps, I have rung over 100 peals of Bristol Maximus since 1989, and I don't recall any of them using 10ths place calls.

Nicholas, I am interested in this, particularly if it is possible to relate the names to those used today. Where this is possible, I can add an also known as on Complib. The spreadsheet can also be hosted on wiki.changeringing.co.uk, which I am happy to help with. A few explanatory words would be good too.

For Doubles variations check the variations library search here. A number of these names are listed, although it is often not possible to determine whether these correspond to what was rung in a historic performance.